In this episode, Nilay and David discuss upcoming Apple redesign plans revealed for WWDC, highlighting the high stakes for Apple's software teams. They explore whether these changes can successfully modernize Apple's software experience. The hosts also delve into Nilay's interview with Google CEO Sundar Pichai, examining the impact of AI advancements on the web’s future. Additional topics include Nintendo Switch 2, tariff updates, and a humorous segment. A thought-provoking, timely tech discussion.